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sheswatchingEven with his "proviso" at the top, it's so so so so hard not to judge Eoin after his latest short story.
I'm not sure if he's trying to be edgy (at your age, Eoin? really?) or what, but this?
This face belongs to that social anomaly, the gay air hostess. The gay air hostess is another beast entirely separate from real life, it's emasculated, yet bizarrely has a position of power in that this creature, clearly wishing it was a female getting a good ride from behind, can tell bigger more ostensibly male types what to do. And they do it.
And the fact that he continually refers to this one particular male flight attendant as "It (and always capitalized, oh god)?" I can't. I will also say that I haven't made ti all the way through, so maybe I'm judging too harshly and the "character" whose POV we see this from actually gets bashed with a unicorn tiara to death, but...yeah.
ETA: Eoin "explains:"
Em, 'theharshknight', it is a story, a tongue in cheek satire, you should read David Sedaris..... There is an eminent problem is writing sometimes because people take things as literal. I have many gay oriented friends, and it is not even about that, it is a small commentary on a certain aspect of life and the character of 'I' is a creation, not a reality.
So...he's just a shit writer (like![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
wldcatsprstr_14 said) who has no foresight into audience reception?
ETA2: He deleted. I don't want to repost it here, but an anon on mm copy-pasted the whole thing here. I do warn for homophobia, if you choose to read.
What did I do on the evening of Jan 3, you ask? Argued with Eoin Macken online. SMH
I'm not sure if he's trying to be edgy (at your age, Eoin? really?) or what, but this?
This face belongs to that social anomaly, the gay air hostess. The gay air hostess is another beast entirely separate from real life, it's emasculated, yet bizarrely has a position of power in that this creature, clearly wishing it was a female getting a good ride from behind, can tell bigger more ostensibly male types what to do. And they do it.
And the fact that he continually refers to this one particular male flight attendant as "It (and always capitalized, oh god)?" I can't. I will also say that I haven't made ti all the way through, so maybe I'm judging too harshly and the "character" whose POV we see this from actually gets bashed with a unicorn tiara to death, but...yeah.
ETA: Eoin "explains:"
Em, 'theharshknight', it is a story, a tongue in cheek satire, you should read David Sedaris..... There is an eminent problem is writing sometimes because people take things as literal. I have many gay oriented friends, and it is not even about that, it is a small commentary on a certain aspect of life and the character of 'I' is a creation, not a reality.
So...he's just a shit writer (like
wldcatsprstr_14 said) who has no foresight into audience reception?What did I do on the evening of Jan 3, you ask? Argued with Eoin Macken online. SMH
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Date: 2012-01-04 02:14 am (UTC)I can't say I'll look at him differently since I honestly don't think that he IS that kind of person. He's just a shit writer.
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Date: 2012-01-04 02:22 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-01-04 02:30 am (UTC)TBH I don't put much stock in his writing already just because I think he tries a lot of stuff that just falls flat and ends up being stupid as hell. So maybe I'm already so jaded that I can't be sufficiently put out by it.
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Date: 2012-01-04 06:32 pm (UTC)He would do better if he thought twice about what's he going to post.
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Date: 2012-01-04 06:01 pm (UTC)It's funny he compares himself to David Sedaris...thing is, maybe if he had an ounce of knowledge about writing and the audience he's presenting this to, he wouldn't have been in this whole mess.
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Date: 2012-01-04 02:33 am (UTC)He knows that people are going to take it badly. But he does it anyway because I honestly don't think he gives a fuck. It's obvious from his writing that he has a very dark mentality. Pair that with shit writing skills and you have shit that goes beyond the realm of offensive and stupid.
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Date: 2012-01-04 03:03 am (UTC)My first fanfic was written better than that.
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Date: 2012-01-04 03:36 am (UTC)I don't understand why he would've posted something so terrible as that. I mean, maybe it's because I'm a fanfic writer, but damn... do you not even think about your audience at ALL? Especially if you're going to share some of your own writing? I mean, that's just... ugh. IDEK. Honestly, Eoin. Honestly.
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Date: 2012-01-04 09:33 am (UTC)His reaction to the reactions? Digging himself only deeper, all with pulling it (so clearly some of the criticism hit him as being correct or possible causing waves in the future, why not leave it up otherwise) and the semi flounce at the end - levels of maturity = 0.
It's offensive and it's not ok, the guise of art is just bs.
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Date: 2012-01-04 06:53 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-01-04 11:03 am (UTC)I read it, in it's entirety because if I am gonna judge a man, I want to have the full story. I screen-capped it because as I was in the middle of reading it, I was informed he had taken it down. You aren't judging too harshly, he didn't redeem himself at any point in that pointless narrative.
It was beyond offensive. The manner in which he dehumanized the object of his venom was sickening. This was no piece of speculative fiction, these were his thoughts. Anyone with an IQ higher than that of a sea sponge could tell the difference.
His trying to pass this off as fiction was feeble and transparent. There was no plot or point, it was just a rant. I think any of his fans that bought his excuses were just trying to protect themselves from the crushing realization that someone they admired turned out to be such a creep.
A creep and a truly crap writer to boot.
I almost wish I hadn't read it, it makes me so damn angry!
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Date: 2012-01-04 07:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-01-04 07:16 pm (UTC)I witnessed the twitter antics as well. I stand by my assessment, Eoin is a creep.
And now I am done with it. I have to go finish a story where Gwaine is a lovely sweet, gay man and that shall soothe me!
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Date: 2012-01-04 12:31 pm (UTC)I was never a big stanner of his (no reason why) but this has basically killed it. If he can actually realise what he's done without jumping on these non-excuses then maybe we could call it lesson learned. Until then, oh hell no.
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Date: 2012-01-04 06:43 pm (UTC)I don't think he learned a lesson, if anything, this has inflated his ego, because he reposted it with another disclaimer and someone did a very very bad Lit Analysis of his "story" - which honestly...we could've all done, if he'd framed it differently and didn't act like a complete asshole on twitter.
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Date: 2012-01-04 04:29 pm (UTC)http://www.freebeerandhotwings.com/
I'm probably the only one who got the whole tongue-in-cheek and David Sedaris references.
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Date: 2012-01-04 06:54 pm (UTC)If you take away the negative aspects of it, there actually seems to be an underlying message that we need to learn how to respect other people's boundaries. There are people who get criticized for being "prejudiced" about one group or another, and the phrase "homophobic purgatory" seems to my interpretation to encompass the real problem with political correctness, how we hamstring ourselves into these corners afraid to speak out for fear of being mocked.
At least that's my interpretation, it might have been a terrible example to use surface-wise, but situationally, it is what we can all relate to in one way or another.
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Date: 2012-01-04 05:32 pm (UTC)Sighhhh, I thought Eoin was better than this.
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Date: 2012-01-04 06:32 pm (UTC)and he reposted with some other disclaimer. To be honest, if he wasn't a sum of his parts, and had posted the writing with new disclaimer originally, and not been a dick on twitter, this could've gone so much differently.
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